12 May 2017, 21:32
14 May 2017, 12:01
lfcgod1 wrote:I'm under the inpression that local agreements should be advertised and members voting on things like allocation of overtime process.
Also, that people shouldn't be bypassed when signing for SA when they are annual leave, sick leave etc... basically it should stopped until the person is asked if they want a SA not presumption by local reps who are going round doing the managers work.
Anyone with any knowledge of this?
14 May 2017, 14:40
rehabron wrote:Any local agreements made overriding national agreements ...
15 May 2017, 11:02
clashcityrocker wrote:rehabron wrote:Any local agreements made overriding national agreements ...
How can a local agreement override a national agreement?
15 May 2017, 13:26
15 May 2017, 13:45
clashcityrocker wrote:I think what you mean is some offices don't like the national agreement and make up some bollocks to suit themselves.
A local agreement cannot be contrary to a national agreement. otherwise there would be no point in having them.
Local reps do not have the authority to make up their own agreements, just as local DOMs aren't allowed to make up their own agreements.
15 May 2017, 14:03
15 May 2017, 14:51
clashcityrocker wrote:Because some people let power go their head and think they can make up their own bollocks. Sometimes they are just plain ignorant.
Sometimes the wording of the agreements is wishy washy and can be interpreted in different ways. Sometimes people muddy the waters deliberately.
But if these people can make better agreements than the top negotiators of the union, why don't we do away with the top brass and save ourselves a lot of money?
The local rep is a CWU rep - s/he is there to ensure the CWU agreements are adhered to. Sometimes that means being unpopular.
Otherwise you have something akin to the Wild West - just make it up as you go along.
And those offices who make up their own rules shouldn't cry too loudly when their managers start doing the same.
Either we have agreements or we don't. It isn't like the pick 'n' mix at Woolworths.
15 May 2017, 19:06
rehabron wrote:so where does the fault lie that this agreement put together by the negotiators at the highest level and agreed by management at high level not being complied with?