11 Aug 2017, 16:36
11 Aug 2017, 16:44
sjnb6 wrote:in the pay offer what are the legacy payments that they want to buy off you . but saying that if it's in your contract you don't have to sell
11 Aug 2017, 16:57
11 Aug 2017, 17:07
houseoflords wrote:We had our driving allowance took off us 2 years ago and we had to pay it back and are still paying it back now so so much for legacy payments being protected it was a sham and most of us are still driving vans.
11 Aug 2017, 17:15
11 Aug 2017, 17:45
11 Aug 2017, 18:34
11 Aug 2017, 18:42
11 Aug 2017, 20:10
ROSSCO wrote:What is the ICS supplement for?
11 Aug 2017, 21:27
11 Aug 2017, 23:10
11 Aug 2017, 23:14
woopesh wrote:Is a delivery suppliment a legacy payment? I always found it odd that you don't just get a flat hourly rate? Why not just up the hourly rate by a few pence so its contained within?
11 Aug 2017, 23:22
dingo wrote:The offer as disclosed was made as a closed offer. The CWU rejected this and a slightly and I mean slightly higher offer made which was also rejected. Royal Mail have confirmed they will make an open offer today or tomorrow. As some of you may be aware that a closed offer means the union cannot reveal. An open offer can be communicated.
In terms of legacy payments , there is 21 million 375000 in legacy payments. A 1% pay increase flowing through to allowances is £43.7 million. So you can see the legacy payments shared in any pay rise is worth less than 0.5%. However the impact to individuals who receive these payments is significant to them and it is not fair.
Those who quote well we did that with the early shift allowance fail to remember the alternative to trapping that money into a permanent supplement along with door to door payment was MTSF which has a maximum of 3 years pay protection. Fishtank makes a point that when individuals leave that payment is lost and that is true. However how do you say to the ExPHG who receives and has done since 2000 the ex phg supplement of £20 reserve rights along with the 25% differential on shift and overtime you will lose that next week as it will help pay everyone else £1.42 ? or the person who has receive RRIS Payments £23 per week or £16.31. Or the person who monthly receives a ICS bonus or PBS bonus and has done since 2000 that you no longer receive this. Or all members who receive the ex PBS £100 christmas lump sum this is gone as it will now fund you £1.42 per week ?
Remember this is not a pay rise , this is a pay restructuring offer. The total payroll will remain the same.
The Union want a pay increase for our members not a decrease for many and a small increase for the majority.
Below is the make up of the total pay bill
Total fixed costs basic pay including London Weighting £ 3,677,235.522
Total Overtime £ 482, 747 ,343
Total Shift allowance £111, 393, 431
Total Skills allowance £32,693,998
Total Legacy Bonus £21,375,460
Total Reserved rights £14,867,174
Total payroll £4,373,823,333
13 Aug 2017, 14:12
13 Aug 2017, 17:56
POSTMAN wrote:I was always under the impression that the ex-phg payment was made until the ex-phg's and the rest of us pay was equal.